Ziwes Instagram Live Show
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Each interview subject came prepared with something different.
Grace is ready to ACT RIGHT and proves this in the name Black friends question.
I see you white people out here learning before you come on the show!
Theres a lot more work to be done, so dont get too comfortable.
(I doubt Ziwe will allow that.)
I want to be friends with Grace!
Chris do you have a short list of whites that would be invited to the cookout?
Cause I am for sure inviting Grace, Brigitte Ganger (my partner), Jojo, and Grace.
Forever uninvited tell I say otherwise: Straight white men.
(Better luck next time, white men!)
And I support your burgeoning crush on Grace!
She seems like a genuinely sweet and funny person.
That said, I think her interview showed the difference between breadth and depth.
I do agree with you about the depth.
Chris:The truth of the matter is that nothing that Grace suggested are reparations.
I totally agree with you.
This brings up the breadth vs. depth idea again.
You are able to write it off in your taxes.
We are talking about actions that dont/wont ultimately be beneficial to you.
Alexis touches on this later.
Were talking aboutsacrifice, honey!
I was like, okay yes, Grace thats correct!
You wouldnt know Black love cause youre not Black!
But I think it’s possible for you to be witness to Black love.
(I have some questions about Black love.
Do you think it only exists in relationships?
Are Black love and Black joy the same thing?
Cause what is joy if not love amplified?)
I died when Ziwe threw in the quick bait after Grace answered no!
So you feel nothing when you see Barack and Michelle?
Now I cant go anywhere without white people showing me their study guides.
Chris:Her answer made me a little sad.
I think Black love exists in many forms.
As much as this pains me to say, there are white people that I love (!)
and it would make me sad if they said theyd never experienced any bang out of Black love before.
Its the only love I know how to give!
Jessica: You know what got me really excited?
The Black Celebrity rapid fire!
She took the list right out of my head!
That was a DEEP CUT.
I also stan that she corrected herself when she almost misgendered someone.
Its okay to correct yourself when you are wrong, white people!
I love when Grace said she would lie to the cops if Ziwe ever stabbed her.
Lying to cops is hot and I dont care who disagrees.
What kinda activism gets you excited Chris?
I think that answer is always correct.
Invest in Black people!
There are two interpretations of this and it had me confused.
I dont know the answer, did you have a clear answer?
Chris:Thats a straight up semantics question that I do not have an answer to.
Is a Black ally a Black person thats an ally or a person thats an ally to Black people?
I should read up on the grammar rules around that.
Speaking of reading, I actually love when people proudly say they dont read.
Its like, okay do you get text messages from your friends?
You know that involves reading right?
Okay, now lets try that again, but in book form.
I appreciate the honesty, though.
Jessica:That was my GASP moment, when Grace said she doesnt read.
I was like why?
BUT does decolonization and re-education have to be rigid?
And Ziwe shows that every episode, the amount of research she does for each guest is truly exhaustive.
No stone is left unturned, no page unread.
Second GASP moment, she knew Stokely Carmichael/Kwame Ture and said it correctly.
Chris:Wait, last thing.
I could not believe the GABRIELLE UNION of it all.
Absolutely thrilling to know Alexis recorded that phone call 30 times.
And even more thrilling to see Ziwe call that out for what it is: white privilege.
Ziwe is asking the questions of the people!
Call her out on her white privilege.
I also loved Alexis on-the-spot rebranding of robbery as wealth distribution.
There were a lot of twists and turns in this interview from the jump.
PLOT TWIST #1: Alexis Neiers has never seenThe Bling Ring.
PLOT TWIST #2: Ziwe mixed up two white women.
Thats not a thing, BTW.
Chris: Ziwe mixing up Emma Watson and Emma Roberts was watching racism be dismantled in action.
Why should I have to know the difference between Emmas Watson and Roberts?
Gotta say, I really enjoyed that film despite Emma Watsons attempt at an American accent.
That woman has been through a LOT in her life.
The conversation about the ethics behind white parents adopting Black children really stuck out to me.
I am so sick of seeing white people adopting Black children and saying All this child needs is love.
The Hallmark card statement does not a parent make!
They need you to be educated.
They need to see themselves reflected back in your actions, your community, your words.
AND yo LEARN HOW TO DO BLACK HAIR!
Chris, do you think that white people should be able to adopt Black children?
I have to say I didnt even think of that.
But now that its been said, I agree.
Sometimes purposeful and sometimes accidental harm, but none the less they are harmful.
Adoption is about taking the child out of harms way and giving them a safe place to grow up.
I dont think you could guarantee that with a white parent adopting a Black child.
Chris: Its complicated.
like dont cancel me for saying this.
Jessica: Chris, Ive retweeted Shaun King before, this is a safe space.
There is no cancelling, only accountability.
So we now know that both of us have fucked up.
Alexis has grown so much, its really a sight to see.
Im so glad she educated herself on racism in reproduction.
That statement made me feel like I was watching a child walk for the first time.
Shes been the pinnacle of white privilege, and yet shes also gone to prison.
Jessica:I have to admit to my mistakes, so I can educate and learn.
I am happy to say that I am about 200 days Shaun King free.
Yes, Alexis is a fascinating Baited subject.
She understands the trauma shes been through and how it is different from the marginalization of Blacks.
She acknowledged her privilege even as an inmate.
Thats what I want to talk about.
Also can we talk about white kids yelling at their parents for a second?
I have always wanted to unpack the mind of a white kid yelling at their parents.
What is that like?
How did you not fear for your life?
You know what I call yelling at my Black parent?
Because a Black mothers wooden spoon is not bound to any reality.
Chris:Oh my god, 100 percent.
Yelling at your parents in my mind is absolutely a Black/white thing Id say.
It is perhaps the last true cultural divide.
This was the verbal equivalent of the spiritual gangsta, namaste in bed T-shirts.
Alexis later clarified that she meant to say hermothersfiance, but for five whole minutes my mind was racing.
I was like, Okay.
Is this a throuple situation?
Is he bi (fingers crossed)?
Whats going on here … Those five minutes were the most exciting part of my quarantine to be sure.
But alas, she misspoke.
I am still going to hang on to the dream that theyre in some hot throuple situation.
The admitting of blackface without being called out first was a GASP moment.
I saw my inner monologue reflected in Ziwe, with her eyeball to camera and mouth open.
I mean, its the work right?
Admitting and reflecting without asking for guidance or sympathy?
I mean is she a totally different person now?
She was addicted to heroin and 15, not at some Yale phrat party poppin fresh roofies in drinks.
Chris: Ziwe was all of us in that moment.
She was 15, addicted to heroin, and shooting a music video for Marilyn Manson.
To be clear, fuck Marilyn Manson though.
Jessica: Oh yeah, fuck Marilyn Manson, being ALT doesnt mean you cant be ALTERACIST.
Chris: Speak on it.
I wish nothing but the best for Grace, Alexis, and Alexiss husbands fiance.
