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Its all about nuance and thoughtfulness.
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I love doing things with my hands.
I just love making things.
I love threads and patterns, and love following patterns.
It brings me great peace.
Part of it was living in New York, for a long time.
I would crochet on the subway to pass the time.
Im not an artist in that way.
Im more of a craft person who can follow other peoples grand design.
Not just clubs colleges, festivals, I was really doing it all.
And I am not famous enough to have my own hard-core fan base that would fill those spaces.
Even to this day, Im still mostly performing for a random collection of people.
Some people come in there without knowing anything about me because theyre idiots.
I want my money back.So I have people who come in [and] dont know anything about me.
A rainbow is going down into the Grand Canyon.
It was posted by the Department of the Interior.
So the nerdiest people in the government are posting a really pretty picture of one of our great treasures.
And it said, like, Storm approaching the Grand Canyon or whatever.
Not even the Grand Canyon can post a picture without someone getting pissed off.
He was so childish.
I remember seeing that face; Ill never forget it.
And just being like,Oh, you cant even say anything.
Its been a big challenge, comedically speaking.
Sometimes its just silence thats telling you that; theyre just not responding in any way.
So I got really afraid of that feeling.
I hate that feeling.
My job as a comedian is to make people laugh and feel loose and joy.
I like building tension and breaking it.
But this was not letting me do that.
It was just an immediate knee-jerk reaction.
I think hes horrible and hes evil, but I still feel empathy for him.
Sometimes he does things that I see myself in him, because thats how I view everyone.
But I cant let them.
Im like,No, but hes good.
He didnt mean to do that.Because theres so many things Trump does.
Thats why Im not president!
So thats the end thing that I always come back to.
Some people are comfortable with those parts and some people arent.
Its hard to admit that, you know, he is a part of the psyche, the id.
I mean, Nancy Pelosi tearing up that speech was on his level and it hurt.
He hates that shit.
You know, not that I need him to hurt.
I just want him gone.
I call them Shithead Island.
Shithead Island is the fandoms of certain comedy podcasts.
This is not an indictment necessarily on the hosts themselves.
Some of them are probably really nice people, or normal.
But the fans are so crazy that I dont want to ever visit Shithead Island.
Some of it has been really bad like where I have been afraid.
It has changed the way I operate when Im on the road.
They want me to feel fear, and they want me to feel awful.
All it takes is one psycho to show up, and its in the back of your head.
Its kind of freaky.
For the most part, youre fine.
But you cant help but feel a little afraid.
It was bleeding over into my personal life and causing conflict in my personal life.
I had two days of sleepless nights, my anxiety just spiraling.
Its like a panic attack: Im sweating, Im crying, and Im talking out loud.
And I was so exhausted by it.
I was like,Why am I doing this to myself?
I wasnt moving the needle.
These are cyclical arguments.
The same points are made over and over again.
For a while it was the Are women funny?
The same sides will say the same things.
No ones mind is changed.
People, I think, started to assume that Im a comedian that gets up onstage and doesNanette.
And, no, I actually dont even really get into this shit.
And especially now, my jokes are about something completely different.
Im putting out a wrong impression of who I am.
Im not even involved in it.
But I care about who gets to do comedy, and I care about women in comedy feeling safe.
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