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When we watch a character like Joe, do we want him to pay?

Do we want retribution?

Do we want vengeance?

Were eating grain bowls by the Hudson in lower Manhattan on a sweltering, 90-plus-degree August day.

But its not fair to do that to that woman, he admits.

Punishment is important, but what form of punishment is actually effective?

With Joe, the irony is that death is almost too easy for him.

Maybe he just deserves to be eternally miserable (But he already is miserable).

The actor is prone to existential musing, shifting the premise of a standard interview into an ethics seminar.

Badgley is partly to blame for the attention.

Theres an innocence to him where he believes in the good of people.

Hes capable of plumbing those depths and going there, but he was initially …

I dont thinkrepulsedwould be too strong a word.

Badgley admits thathe detests Joe.

One can enjoyYouas a deconstruction of romantic cliches or ignore that and just gaze at the protagonist.

Badgley still tries to engage those who do the latter.

And if theyre not [thinking about it], they should because it affects your life enormously.

I dont think the effects could be overstated.

Badgley moved to Hollywood dreaming of that kind of breakout moment.

Otherwise, why are you going to Hollywood?

He was unprepared for the intensity of the spotlight.

People were not talking about mental health then, he says sardonically, not in the celebrity sphere.

He references the director Terrence Malick as one inspiration.

Badgley hasnt watched the recent HBO MaxGossip Girlreboot.

The truth is I barely watch anything, he says.

We get up to walk along the river, both of us a little woozy from the heat.

Badgley ruminates on whetherYous concept will still click with viewers.

When youre a very visible person, you have to think about it.

Correction: Joe and Loves child onYouis a son.

A previous version of this story misstated the sex.

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