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The Verges Ashley Carman has been on the Podcasting Mark Cuban beat, a.k.a.

What the heck is this Fireside thing?

In any case,The AirSpace prevails.

Takeline will debut on March 16, while the video series will follow shortly after.

The experience is only available in the U.S. and will be updated on a monthly basis.

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The psychological thriller was critically lauded, banking a few Golden Globe nominations and a second season renewal.

Not a bad showing for one of the first major podcast adaptations to successfully hit television screens.

It was nothing we expected or were looking for.

We had zero thought or plan or even hope of it being a television show.

But it did, and it also contributed to the beginning of a now-notable trend.

But by and large, this impression was largely as fantastical then as it is today.

Lets take a beat to unpack what being in development means, in case youre unfamiliar.

It doesnt mean a show is actually being made.

(In industry parlance, this is called development hell.)

A critical step during this period is finalizing an agreement with the company optioning your intellectual property.

I guess that was normal… and even a little bit fast, Werner told me last week.

The agent eventually got that agreement in writing, and Werner signed on the dotted line.

But not all was well on the production company side of things.

Everything was constantly in flux, she said.

I had a director, and I lost the director, and then I had another director.

People were getting fired, and businesses were getting acquired, and people were getting hired.

Youre just in a tsunami that you cant control, she said.

I came away from it knowing how to write for TV, she responded.

I have knowledge of all of these different people in the industry.

I have an open invitation from certain people to submit things to them.

So Im crushed, but Im also weirdly okay.

Paul Bae can probably relate.

Interestingly, neither project originated from a podcast.

I think theres a little bit of a misconception that were like an IP factory, says Lewy.

Our goal is to make podcasts that reach a wide audience and are successful on their own merits.

It didnt seem that appealing to me, says Hirway.

But still, he recalls that nothing anyone was saying was making me feel enthusiastic.

With help from his agent, he pitched Netflix, and the team was receptive.

For months I was like, are they making an offer or not?

I just kept waiting for a day when it would be like, Its on!

And honestly, it didnt happen.

I never had the day where I was like, Oh, its really, really happening.

In any event, Hirway finally got his yes.

Neville insisted that by removing himself, the result would make for a less intimate experience for the viewer.

I wasnt comfortable, he said.

Im more than just a name in the credits.

And I appreciate that.

Toward the end of our conversation, Hirway told me that his Netflix contract forSong Exploderhas run its course.

No no no, said Hirway.

Im working on a new idea for TV.

Looks like podcastings collective romance with Hollywood is here to stay.

Listen: I friggin love reality television.

Yes, I know its exploitative.

Yes, I know its trash.

(Presumably, the internal differentiator is death.)

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This week, another story in a similar vein: signaling when a podcast will ask something of you.

That self-description is really interesting to me.

Long threads on Twitter?

Thats when they started thinking about using the podcast format.

This just seemed like the right place to offer free advice, Gritters says.

The episodes are the lessons; the Patreon offerings are the coursework.

We werent trying to replicate other peoples models, she says.

We dreamed this up out of our own brains.

And what they dreamt was something akin to the titular co-op model.

When I think about a co-op, I think theres so much learning from each other, Yan says.

I say its a membership program or a collaborative community.