Save this article to read it later.
Find this story in your accountsSaved for Latersection.
Julien Bakerdidnt need to finish her college degree.
But say it were?
Alert your book clubs accordingly.
If I were Theodor Adorno, I wouldnt have finished writing that book.
Its actually very alarming to think that we are responsible for each other, you know?
The Incendiariesby R.O.
Kwon
Faith Healer
That book is about a cult.
I mean, look at the Capitol [insurgence].
But people do that with church.
In the book, what ends up happening is the group attacks an abortion clinic.
That is violent, and I would venture to say that is wrong.
But I can understand why.
Theres been seldom a literary moment thats made me so emotional.
I dont know that I had ever thought about those things as separate entities.
Thats just not, in the traditional Christian context, how you conceive of your actions.
He just regards everything from this haze of indifference, because ultimately nothing matters to him.
Its super-sad to see a person stripped.
I wonder if that is something embedded in me culturally, or whether its just a deep psychological need.
So how can you have empathy?
JC:Ive seen this poem revisited online often in the last few years.
The purpose of making art is that it is going to matter.
The dynamic in that book that really spoke to me was between her and Mapplethorpe.
I could see myself in my friendships as both Robert and Patti.
Its so sad, but theres a great deal of empathy that can be exercised here.
And I was like,What am I doing?
It talks about how you will never arrive at an institutional, singular practice of justice.
Ziptie bookends well with Hardline because its another song of mourning for the suffering in the world at large.
Its a symbol of oppression masquerading as justice: the zip tie, the restraining object itself.
This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.
Every product is independently selected by our editors.
Things you buy through our links may earn us a commission.
