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Speaking of Tony Kushner, this is a show that loves to cast from the New York theater world.

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Was that shifting as you went, too?

I think she feels that, and as a representative of the president, the president feels that.

We knew each other a little.

I moved into an apartment right before the pandemic hit, and trying to furnish it has been problematic.

Brian recommended a cool shop called Humble House in Brooklyn that he went to and recently got a sofa.

I went there and he was right.

Its an interesting dynamic.

Logan showing up in the studio to want to talk to me, thats a huge red flag.

This scene needs to have all the weight of the president.

I love that theyre finding ways to show how off-balance and in a position of danger he is.

You got to play one of the only people whos of a higher status, power-wise, than Logan.

[mysterious voice] Or am I?

It was fun because this is a woman whos really fucking busy.

Shes busy with things on a national and global level.

You gave him an opportunity to play a different note than usual when your character makes him laugh.

I think it might have been slightly different than not fucking much.

It allowed us to genuinely laugh.

Its a great touch to have there be a history; they know each other, theres an affection.

How did you develop the character?

Shes working in a conservative administration.

She does pundit talking-head interviews for a cable news show.

I remember Jesse saying its not a specific allusion to someone.

They had these great talking points that were really smart and hidden in the background.

As Jesse said to me, Logan would consider that hecouldget to the president.

She and the president do need things from Logan.

She cant just pooh-pooh him.

Often, youll have the script supervisor or one of the ADs reading those lines to the people on-camera.

I did a scene once inGemini Manwhere I had a phone conversation with Will Smith.

They had recorded Will, and then they put him in my ear behind the phone.

I could hear Will, but it wasnt live.

But in this case, on the day they were shooting, I was on my phone.

It can go over a period of a couple hours.

But the twist is that they shot that in another country I think they were in Italy.

And they shot it way late in the season.

And the next time, I was getting dressed and put into a corset.

And the final time, I was in a horse-drawn carriage in full costume in 1880 in between takes.

I sent pictures to J., and J. sent me pictures from the van of them smiling at me.

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