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And I said, I cant.

Im in New York.
And he said, Well, you might want to reconsider that check your email.
And I looked at my email, and there was a script calledThe Organ Donor.
And I said, You know, Mark, I just dont know if its possible.
And he goes, Well, youre going to be meeting Chris Rock.
In my mind, I could not believe that.
And I flew in, met with Chris, we immediately hit it off.
About a month later, I was on my way to Toronto to make the movie.
And then we would meet again, and we would go through it.
So he says his crime was that he lied under oath.
So what is he doing?
What is this fault?
This fault is lying.
How do you lie?
We lie with your voice, with your tongue.
Well, okay, lets take his tongue out.
Well, how do you take a tongue out?
you could do it with pliers, but thats not visual.
Lets make it moreSaw-esque.
They are becoming increasingly harder to design as the franchise is going on.
Sometimes we love a trap, and it doesnt work.
Sometimes we love a trap, but it doesnt fit with the crime of the person.
On this, we wanted to do a lot through sound design and reaction shots.
But that feels like a cop-out.
But I was just like, its too much.
And maybe in some respects, its more disturbing the way its actually presented.
Its a very striking moment in the film.
What was the reaction from your team during the delay?
We have our [character] going after bad apples of an unjust system.
So this is just a story taking place in this one police department.
This is just having that balance.
So its not just us trying to push an agenda, but were showing different sides.
Getting his voice in theSawfranchise is awesome.
And honestly, I dont know.
Im just excited to be a part of it.
Youve also made some cult-favorite musicals.
What did working onRepo!
The Genetic OperaandThe Devils Carnivalteach you about filmmaking?I am a music fanatic.
Literally before I called you, I was listening toLittle Shop of Horrors.
There is an escapism with that.
He uses these very intense color palettes, a bright yellow, bright orange, bright green.
No one lives, everyone gets eaten.
[Warner Bros.] wanted to have a happier end, [but] that shit is dark.
Its got great music in it, great characters.
[But] its fucking dark.