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What happens when the duo takes that playful spirit and actually tries to make music for children?
The streaming service recently announced that the duo is co-writing an animated musical.
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I think we were in Ireland, right?
Kate Micucci: We were in Ireland.
Both of us grew up in small towns, and we had known of this thing that people do.
RL: I was obsessed with doing it, and I started writing lyrics and stuff.
KM:I was just like,I dont think I can sing about this.
This seems to me like it is crossing the line for me.
It was me just being really uncomfortable with the whole idea of singing, you know?
Riki came up with the phrase.
RL: Fuck me in the ass because I love Jesus.
KM: It made me laugh.
I fell over going, Yes, this is so good.
But I just personally wasnt ready to sing about it.
And Riki was really very cool about that and respected my being uncomfortable with it.
And so we just …
RL: Sat on it.
I would like to bring it up a little bit, but Kate is good with boundaries.
And when its not happening, its not happening, so theres no point fighting it.
Id be like, Is there any other … And shed be like, Nope, nope, nope.
I remember just all of these things were brewing.
I thought maybe Id have this one job and another thing.
I think I was worried for a lot of reasons, like disappointing family or whatever.
RL: You told me in person.
We were on that walk.
It was like, I have something to tell you.
I was like, What, are you pregnant?
Im ready to do The Loophole.
KM: The timing had to be right, but I really appreciate it.
Riki, thank you again for being patient with me.
I dont actually think I ever said that to you just with the way things unfolded.
Everybody who was a part of it, everyone on the crew, everything about it was magical.
RL: Except remember when we shot it?
KM: It was my birthday, which was Easter.
And we were like, Were not going to find this.
So, we called around the valley asking porn places, Do you have these standing sets?
And theyre just cheaper to use.
So we went and rented out a porn studio, and we had a church and a school.
There was a white screen and its painted with clouds and theres two big butts.
And they were like, Doing nothing.
Theyre going to throw them out.
I think theyre going to be, you know, unusable.
They just left them there.
So we had this stage that was painted with clouds, with two big butts.
KM: Overall, I feel like its maybe our best comedy song.
RL: I think your mom defriended us on Facebook.
KM: Yeah, that wasnt good.
Youll never work for Disney.
And, since, Kates worked on like seven cartoons for Disney.
KM: Yeah, but it was, you know, all the things I was worried about.
And it was a really hard time, honestly.
Like, I got really depressed after the video came out, and it was really not good.
But, you know, it got me into therapy.
It was just something that I had to work through, and it all turned out just fine.
And I think that that was a good thing.
Thats our next move.
We didnt get those meetings, but we did get in the pool of people who could submit songs.
You just do it on spec.
And then if your song ends up in the movie, you get a song in the movie.
Or we would be in the final cut until three weeks before.
And so thats what we did withSteps.
Thepress releasesaid that it was Cinderellas stepsisters, but its not.
Its a fictional character named Isadora, and its her stepsisters.
Isadora is chosen by the prince, and then its basically what happens when the prince doesnt pick you.
Its about how these people have to actualize themselves and become real human beings.
Its a myth perpetuated to keep us down.
And not only are we not each others enemy, were each others salvation.
Were the only way to get out of the trap that is to be not running things.
It makes it sound really boring, but that is underneath a funny story.
Theres a lot of fun songs.
Like half comedy, half not-comedy.
At first, my instinct was for simplicity.
I remember readingHarry Potter.
J.K. Rowling uses simple words in a cool way.
Im like,Oh, I want to do that.
I want to use words that kids understand.
I know thats not the best reference, but that was what I was looking at at the time.
But then when we started writing songs, we had a new philosophy on it because ofHamilton.
If they know all the words to My Shot, then weve been underestimating the audience.
