B. Pagels-Minor recalls the unrest that forced an employee walkout.

Save this article to read it later.

Find this story in your accountsSaved for Latersection.

Article image

Two years later,The Closeroutright defended transphobia.

A content warning has yet to be added.

We dont have this inquisition-bang out stuff at Netflix, Pagels-Minor told Vulture over the phone Tuesday.

This is just not stuff that happens here.

In a statement to Vulture, a Netflix spokesperson said: These claims are not supported by the facts.

This employee admitted sharing confidential information externally from their Netflix email on several occasions.

Pagels-Minor denies being the source of the leak.

Below, B. Pagels-Minor recalls the recent unrest at Netflix in their own words.

Were not asking you to take down the content, Pagels-Minor said of Netflix.

The problem is not necessarily about the special.

Its about this ongoing conversation that felt false.

Theres gonna be content that people disagree with.

Theres no question about that.

But how do you create parity in content?

Why arent you investing in that?

First and foremost, I am the person who was fired.

Before I left Netflix, my actual title was game-launch operations program manager.

And I was the co-lead of Black@ Netflix and Trans* at Netflix.

Not only that, I wasthe face of Netflix for several external campaignsto help with recruitment.

Would you be interested in representing?

Ive been in tech since 2010.

Ive been in a lot of toxic tech companies.

Honestly, Netflix was like my Shangri-la.

I was like,Oh my gosh, theyre so nice to me.

They dont misgender me.

And the first thing he did was introduce me to trans people and Black people.

I am 33 weeks pregnant.

I am a high-risk pregnancy.

Before October 5, I was just like,Im working on gaming.

My last day in office is November 12.

I have never in my experience as a human seen the emotionality, the outpouring of concern.

It got worse and worse because the Ted emails felt so weird from the culture.

I read that email, and it felt so anti-Netflix.

I am horrified that that was written.

Then I got a message from my manager saying that she wanted to check in with me.

I joined the call and she said, Oh, by the way, this is actually super-serious.

It seems like this data is the same stuff thats in theBloombergarticle.

I explained to them that I had pulled all this data.

It was a part of the argument for diversifying content on the online grid.

Its a better value-add than necessarily investing so much money into some of these specials.

I created publicly viewable Google documents and things that people could use, and I shared this information broadly.

Ultimately they think that I facilitated the leak by creating these folders of information.

I was like, Im really sorry this is the outcome.

It was very pleasant.

And then they put out this press release saying that they had fired someone for leaking information.

I was like,This is not at all the energy yall came with last night.

I dont want to participate in this.

Im 33 weeks pregnant; I do not want this stress.

However, theyve only made it worse.

I really want to see Netflix have some movement on the demands from the Trans* employee-resource group.

This is just a logical investment to make to be successful long term.

The second part of it is that I just want a reasonable solution for myself from a severance perspective.

If we do that, then were all good.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

Tags: