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Mateo:Let me start with this: Moises is the older brother.
So our dynamic has always been like that of twin brothers.
Moises:Because Im shorter.
Mateo:Because of the height difference, yeah.
In the film, his name is Mateo and I play the older brother.
So that automatically just creates a certain friction, because it goes against our nature.
We had to flip our dynamic, and I know Esteban and Erick did that on purpose.
It was so interesting figuring out the dynamic.
Esteban pit us against each other in certain ways and then hed help us befriend each other again.
We went through a crazy roller coaster of emotions.
At times we literally wrestled right before we would be rolling.
Wed wrestle for maybe 1520 seconds, get roughed up, and Esteban would put us right in there.
You really get a feel for the kind of brotherly chemistry you bring to Carly and Mateo.
How did you build to that?
Speaking to each other in Spanish we only do that when we want to talk shit about someone.
So speaking to each other in Spanish, our psychology already knows, Okay, somethings different here.
So, foundationally, that was the most different and difficult part of it.
Moises:I think the idea was to separate ourselves.
For me, I wanted to be as removed from myself as possible.
So when Esteban was like, Yo, can you shave your head?
I was like, Fuck.
I dont want to, but yes, sure.
Mateo:Oh, and you got a piercing on your eyebrow!
Moises:Oh yeah, he pierced my eyebrows.
I mean, not him, personally.
But all of that completely changed the dynamic when I would talk to people in the street.
Its like, the shaved-head kid with the piercing, is he stuck in 2001?
Like, what is he doing?
How did you find that balance between the hardness and softness of these characters?
Moises:I think the Colombian culture is very united, very warm.
When we were kids, we would say, Whats up?
We slowly became Americanized.
But I think thats what comes naturally, this wanting to touch and feel.
Theres a lot of people that doesnt fly with, especially here in the States.
The mix is that; its the clash of the American and the Colombian.
She ended up being like such a special person that we both vibe with very easily.
She was very silly and very quickly tapped into our stupidity and our sense of humor.
There was a lot of emotional chemistry there.
You mentioned the struggle of acting in Spanish.
How much did that add to the feel of the film on your end?
You know, I thinkNarcosreally opened peoples eyes to what the Colombian culture is.
Mateo:Its not the end all and be all of Colombia.
Moises:Yeah, its not only that.
Its a different conflict that a lot of people live with.
Because our Spanish isde la casa, you know?
Its literally from home.
I say sayings my dad said to me when I was a kid.
I dont sayparcebecause my mom hates that fucking word.
It sort of hit differently than other projects that I have been a part of.
Mateo:The story touches on such an authentic … you know how we were talking aboutNarcosand whatever?
So I feel like it brings in different dimensions.
Moises:Its also timely in the fact that we need to have this conversation.
Because Colombias in a position right now where theyre trying to silence freedom of speech.
Essentially, they want to cut out the internet and not let real videos go out into the world.
Its not great to again be in the news with something so violent and tragic.
Mateo:But something so human, too.
Like, in different ways, the States has been going through its own turmoil.
So on some level theres empathy there.
