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As Gen-X women cross the Rubicon of perimenopause, theyre hungry for stories that reflect their experiences.

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They have found themselves at the forefront of a new wave of media focused on the topic.

Were here to stay, Abecassis said.

I talked to them about their podcast, ageism, womens media, and more.

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The podcast comes off as very raw and personal.

I wasnt going to really have a place for the Man in my life.

That working for the Man again wasnt going to happen to me.

Being at Conde Nast for a long time gave me the financial security to make a decision like that … Whos going to hire me?

Tally Abecassis:It makes me bummed.

I give less fucks.

I hear that so much!

To be like,Im gonna make a blog that says exactly what I want.

If I think a designers overpriced, Ill talk about how theyre overpriced.Ill talk about anything with Tally.

And I think, you know, its because of that.

France:Thats exactly what it was.

But we didnt meet in person until the very first episode.

Whats the difference between having a conversation and writing about these same topics?

I need to remember that people are actually going to listen to this.

But when Im writing, Im much more disciplined about watching my own back, I would say.

In Canada, theres a magazine calledChatelaine I dont think you have it here.

All the articles were pro-aging, etc.

But then the fashion parts of them were just 20-year-old models wearing ridiculous clothing that we could never wear.

Abecassis:Theres shame around a lot of aging.

When I heard that term age shame for the first time, I was like,Oh!

And I was like,Fuck!

What did I just do?And then I was doing the mental calculation ofWho knows that Im 46?

France:But its like all this conversation lately around people sharing their salaries.

Its a good thing.